1st Round

2nd Round

16 July 2010
Weisse – Accept

6 September 2010
Cliff Weisse--Accept

I understand the concerns expressed in previous voting comments but I'm satisfied that this individual is not a hybrid. The color of the wing linings looks a bit pale in the photo but the written description correctly describes the color as orange/salmon and it is distinctly darker and more orange than the female Black-headed in the same photo, especially close to the body. I would be more hesitant if there were other intermediate traits visible in the photo but I don't see anything else that suggests this is not an adult female RB Grosbeak so I'm comfortable that the apparent color of the wing lining is an artifact of the photo.

07/11/2010
Darren Clark--Accept

Well-written record and photograph is helpful.

12/03/2010
Darren Clark--Accept

I know there are concerns, but the color of the wing linings look ok to me. I still believe this to be a Rose-breasted Grosbeak.

18 July 2010
Hardy--Accept

Photo shows diagnostic streaking across breast. Nice comparison with BHGR showing the different shades of yellow on the underwing between the two species.

10 October 2010
Hardy--Accept

Same comments as first round.

07-18-2010
Dave Trochlell--Accept

I'm convinced. Thanks especially for the helpful RBGR/BHGR comparison photo!

09-13-2010
Dave Trochlell--Accept

I'm still convinced.

07-29-2010
Sturts--Accept

Photo and description elminated the similar Black-headeed Grosbeak female

010-25-2010
Sturts--Accept

I'm still convinced.

7-30-10
chuck trost--Reject, specific identification not established

The wing-linings didn't look rosy enough to me. Perhaps a hybrid?

10-9-10
chuck trost--Accept

I'm switching my vote to accept because I don't think this was a hybrid.

08-06-2010
Doug Ward--Reject, specific identification not established

This one took me a bit to decide as I’m not sure we are not dealing with a Rose-breasted X Black-headed Grosbeak (Pheucticus ludovicianus X melanocephalus) hybrid here. While the key points for an adult female Rose-breasted are made in the description, the photo is less diagnostic for me principally due to apparent wing lining color, breast streaking definition, and upper mandible coloration. While I think between the discussion and the photo there is enough evidence to accept this record, I would like to read other’s comments before accepting.

09-15-2010
Doug Ward--Accept

While I’m not 100% convinced that there isn’t a little Black-headed Grosbeak (Pheucticus melanocephalus) blood in this bird based on an apparent dilution of color (of salmon by yellow) in the expected wing lining coloration, the darkness of the upper mandible, restricted white on the chin, and more diffuse streaking than typical as shown in the photograph, at least a few of these contradictions could be explained by photographic artifacts. Considering the definitive age of the bird, the observer’s experience with both expected Pheucticus species, and a well written description, I’m now comfortable accepting this record.