Voting Comments
Record #: 47-B-06
Parasitic Jaeger
1st Round: 5-2
2nd Round: 3-4
3rd Round 2-5
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1st Round |
2nd Round |
3rd Round |
| 09-14-2007. Sturts -- Accept Description fits that of the Parasitic Jaeger. Similar Jaeger species were eliminated. |
Sturts 06-08-2008. VOTE: Reject, specific identification not established COMMENTS: After reading the 1st round comments and further discussion on email, I'm changing my vote to reject. The fact that this species is highly unlikely during the summer and many of the field marks fitting that of the Pomarine make the correct identification questionable |
01-31-2009.
I will stay with my 2nd round vote. Cliff's detailed discussion notes convinced me that the identification as a Parasitic Jaeger is questionable. |
| 9/18/2007. Cliff Weisse -- Reject, specific identification not established Although I'm inclined to accept this record I'm going to vote "Reject" because the description is not extensive and the flight style is described as tern like, suggesting Long-tailed Jaeger. That said the rusty appearance is a strong point in favor of Parasitic and the single white patch on the underwing would not be typical of Pomarine. At this point I'd like to see what the rest of the committee has to say before accepting this record. |
11-16-2008 Cliff Weisse -- Reject, Specific identification not established Upon reconsideration I feel this report is not sufficient to confirm the ID. The early date of the record seems to preclude any possibility of a juvenile so the bird is either an adult or subadult. Tail streamers are often broken which I take it is the case here because any jaeger older than juvenile would have noticable central rectrices. The description of the primaries as rusty is troublesome because no jaegers of any age show rusty primaries, except possibly narrow tips on juvenile Parasitics. Size described could fit either Parasitic or Pomarine. Rusty barring on flanks is only regularly shown by Pomarine. Adult Pomarine is the expected mid-summer jaeger, and the report does not rule out that species. The description actually fits Pomarine better than Parasitic but don't think it is conclusive. |
1/28/09.
This report does not eliminate other jaegers and in fact strongly supports Pomarine Jaeger, although not quite conclusively. |
| 09-23-2007. Dave Trochlell -- Reject, specific identification not established Several important field criteria differentiating LTJA from PAJA were not mentioned in this description, so I wasn't convinced that the bird described was a PAJA. |
11-21-2008.
The description is not specific enough for any one of the jaeger species. The tern-like flight best describes a LTJA. |
01-31-2009.
I'm going to stay with my vote to reject, based upon reasons stated in the last round. |
| 3 October 2007. Hardy -- Accept Diagnostic rufous color and flight style noted. |
30 November 2008.
I was most swayed by the description of rufous coloring which eliminates the "cold" colored Long-tailed, and the small bill and flight style which eliminates Pomarine. |
15 February 2009.
I think this bird was most likely a Parasitic, but I am changing my vote based on Cliff's observations of timing and that first-summer PA lack rufous tones. The bird was a subadult (barring on underwings), and not a LT (rufous tones). This leaves PA or PO, as the reporter narrowed it down early in the observation. The description, with the exception of the rufous tones, is compatible with a first summer PA. In addition, I am inclined to place weight on the described flight style (more tern like than gulls, quick wingbeat) to eliminate PO, especially as the reporter is experienced. But the question of the rufous tones lingers when added to the lack of previous summer records. |
| 010-06-2007. chuck trost -- Accept Fairly good description, but the season seems wrong to me. Nevertheless, adequately described. |
11-20-2008.
I'm changing my vote because the season still seems wrong to me and a LTJA can't be rulled out. |
02-02-2009.
I think the date is wrong for this species, and without further information I'm changing my vote. |
| 11-04-2007. Carlisle -- Accept Size, coloration, and minimal tail streamers all convincing. |
11-25-08. No change from prior comments |
2-4-09.
The description is still convincing to me - esp. the fact that the reporter suggested subadult and then described subadult characteristics. Also, while a summer record is rare for any jaeger species and there is an apparent pattern of Pomarine being most likely inland in summer, I think it can be a little dangerous to use a pattern like that to strongly argue against other possibilities (i.e., just b/c Pomarine is most expected doesn't mean Parasitic isn't possible - see LT Jaeger 3-B-01 which was assumed Parasitic for ~ a week, largely b/c that was the most expected jaeger). Lastly, according to Nat Geo, the partial chinstrap on a subadult and the extensive belly barring both point to Parasitic. Don't know if this is corroborated in other guides ... |
| 13 Nov 2007. Darren Clark -- Accept The description supports Parasitic. I'm not sure the observer totally ruled out Long-tailed, but I feel good about accepting this record as a Parasitic Jaeger. |
11-18-2008.
Although I'm a bit out of my element here (I've seen few Jaegers), I still feel the description fits Parasitic. |
02-06-2009.
No change from before |