Voting Comments
Record #: 3-A-03
Pacific Golden-Plover
1st Round: 6-1
2nd Round: 7-0
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1st Round |
2nd Round |
| 09-13-2007. Sturts -- Accept "the combination of short primary extension beyond the tertials with only 2 tips visible" This field mark, along with the rest of the description and pictures, convinced me that the identification is correct. |
Sturts 05-03-2008.
VOTE: Accept COMMENTS: I'm staying with my first round vote for the same reason. |
| 09-16-2007. Dave Trochlell -- Accept Given that the differentiation between PGPL and AGPL can be very problematic, the description made a very good case for an identification of Idaho's first PGPL. Although the photos were far from ideal, they were helpful. What I could see of the bird (especially structure) readily reminded me of the dozens of basic-plumage Pacific Goldens I saw on the Hawaiian Islands about 20 years ago. |
Dave Trochlell 05-13-2008.
VOTE: Accept COMMENTS: I'm going to stick with my earlier vote on this one, because the excellent documentation and helpful images are very convincing for an identification of Pacific Golden-Plover. Cliff Weisse 5/3/08. VOTE: Accept COMMENTS: See first round comments
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| 20 Sept 2007. Darren Clark -- Accept The written description, observations by three careful observers, and the photographs support the identification. |
Darren Clark 05/04/2008.
VOTE: Accept COMMENTS: After viewing the photographs and reviewing the written description and reviewing other materials, I'm still confident of the identification of this bird as a Pacific Golden-Plover |
| 9/28/2007. Cliff Weisse -- Accept Field marks included in report(s) sufficient to confirm the identification of Pacific Golden-Plover. I observed this individual at close range and have no doubt about the ID. |
Cliff Weisse 5/3/08. VOTE: Accept COMMENTS: See first round comments |
| 10/2/07. Charles Swift -- Reject, specific identification not established I'd like to see some more discussion on this bird and perhaps additional outside opinions. |
5/29/08. Charles Swift -- Accept The comments from the first vote have convinced me. Also I would like to add this commentary that I received from Dennis Paulson to be included in this record: "My impression of the plover is that it's the right shape for Pacific, but I wouldn't go on record as saying "that's a Pacific Golden-Plover." The photos themselves just aren't good enough to see the details I would need to see. Based only on the description of the wings, it certainly sounds like Pacific. The plumage state doesn't distinguish the two, so you're going only on the wingtips, which indeed are important characters. If this came through the Washington Bird Record Committee, I'd probably say "very likely Pacific, but hesitate to give it 100% endorsement." At the same time, there is no reason to doubt that Pacifics turn up in Idaho, so I would probably list it under Pacific with the caveat that it was very likely that species, but it would be good to have more observations of golden-plovers in the state to work out the proportion of each species. Presumably American is much more likely, but I don't know its status in Idaho. When I wrote my PNW shorebird book, I had to depend almost 100% on specimens to work out the status of the two species. Now there has been a lot more field work and effort to distinguish them." |
| 4 October 2007. Hardy -- Accept The number of primary tips exposed beyond tertials plus the short wings (reach tail tip when folded) as described are sufficient to identify this first state record. |
Hardy 10 May 2008.
VOTE: Accept COMMENTS: I have seen nothing to cause me to change my decision between the first and second rounds. |
| 11-04-2007. Carlisle -- Accept Pictures leave something to be desired but bill thickness, leg length, and apparently short wings all consistent with Pacific. |
Carlisle 5-16-08.
COMMENTS: no change from 1st round vote |