[Emailed exchange between Terry Gray and Shirley Sturts re: LBBG, #: 9-B-02]

I emailed Terry about the difference in his notes and Carole's
report.
His response is below.
I think he is probably right - they were looking at the bird from
a different angle,distance and light conditions.

Shirley Sturts
Coeur d'Alene, ID
----- Original Message -----
From: "Terry Gray" <clgtlg@moscow.com>
To: "Shirley Sturts" <s.sturts@verizon.net>
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 2:59 PM
Subject: RE: Lesser Black-Backed Gull 9-B-02


> Hi Shirley,
>
> I am sure there was only one bird. I was looking at the bird
> from a
> slightly different angle than Carole was so the light could
> have been a
> factor on what we observed as far as color of legs and bill.
> I did not
> make not of the bird flying and it was to long ago to remember.
> I may have
> been trying to get my camera ready when that occurred.
>
> Sorry I do not have better notes and it has been a few years
> ago.
>
> Terry
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Shirley Sturts [mailto:s.sturts@verizon.net]
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 1:15 PM
> To: Terry Gray
> Subject: Re: Lesser Black-Backed Gull 9-B-02
>
>
> Your notes do not seem to fit the bird that Carole was
> reporting.
> see her description attached.
> Could there have been two birds or could it have been the
> distance and light the bird was seen in.?
> I've also asked Kas if he took notes.
>
>
> Shirley Sturts
> Coeur d'Alene, ID
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Terry Gray" <clgtlg@moscow.com>
> To: "Shirley Sturts" <s.sturts@verizon.net>
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 8:23 AM
> Subject: RE: Lesser Black-Backed Gull 9-B-02
>
>
>> Hi Shirley,
>>
>> I only took a few notes on the Lesser Black-backed Gull that I
>> observed on
>> November 9th, 2002.
>>
>> Observation 11/9/2002:
>>
>> Did not make note of the time but it was approximately 8:30 to
>> 9:00 a.m.
>> when this bird was observed.
>>
>> Lesser-Blackbacked Gull. Seen on island just north of the
>> Potlatch Mill in
>> the middle of the Clearwater River. Bird was standing near a
>> few
>> Ring-billed Gulls and was much darker in appearance than any
>> other gulls
>> around that day. Bird had a bright yellow bill with a large
>> red spot on the
>> lower mandible and the legs were the same color as the bill
>> (bright yellow).
>> The bird was larger than the Ring-billed Gulls but not real
>> big. More along
>> the size of a California Gull. Bird stood out from the other
>> gulls on the
>> island due to being very dark backed looking black from a
>> distance with a
>> white head. Bird was observed with binocs and a spotting
>> scope
>> and
>> photographed.
>>
>> That is all I have.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Terry
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Shirley Sturts [mailto:s.sturts@verizon.net]
>> Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 11:07 AM
>> To: Dumroese, Kas; Gray, Terry and Christine
>> Subject: Lesser Black-Backed Gull 9-B-02
>>
>>
>> Kas and Terry,
>>
>> We are in the 2nd round of voting on Carol Vande Vorde's
>> Record.
>> (see below) Voting was 4-3 in the first round.
>> Did either of you take any field notes that could further
>> support
>> this
>> record?
>> We have the pictures you sent in Terry. Thank you.
>>
>> 2 November - 15 December 2002 - Lewiston, Clearwater River
>> near
>> the Potlatch Mill, Nez Perce County, Latilong 4 - Carole
>> VandeVorde, Kas Dumroese, Terry and Christine Gray, Louise
>> Lavoie, Marlene Koliner and many others - Rare Bird Alert 17
>> December 2002
>> Rare Bird Report #: 9-B-02
>>
>> Shirley Sturts
>> Coeur d'Alene, ID