1st Round Voting Comments
Record #: 33-B-06
Lesser Black-backed Gull
1st Round: (5-2)
2nd Round (2-5)
NOT ACCEPT
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1st Round |
2nd Round |
| 010-11-2006. Shirley Sturts -- Accept Although seen at a distance, I was convinced by the field marks that were observed, and the good job Lisa did in eliminating similar gull species. |
08-07-2007. Sturts -- Accept I am staying with my first vote for the same reasons. |
| 010-12-2006. Chuck Trost -- Accept Careful observation and description. Size is about correct with respect to HEGU and RBGU. Leg color not that critical (unless pink) and she noted that the HEGU legs were indeed pink. |
08-12-2007. chuck trost -- Reject, specific identification not established After reading the comments on the first round, I think Dave is correct that this bird was too distant to identify with certainty. The yellow legs and feet are critical. |
| 10/13/06. Cliff Weisse -- Reject, specific identification not established The description is not sufficient to eliminate other species, especially since the eye color was not seen well. |
8/12/07. Cliff Weisse -- Reject, specific identification not established This may have been a LBBG but the documentation is insufficient to rule out other species. Observer is uncertain of eye and leg color and there is no description of key structural points such as primary extension, body shape and bill shape. |
| 11-03-2006. Dave Trochlell -- Reject, specific identification not established I regret that I couldn't accept this record, because I believe that the observer saw an adult Lesser Black-backed Gull. But the main problem with the observation was that the gull's leg color was not certain because of the distance, and this factor is essential for the identification of Lesser Black-backed Gulls. Secondly, I was disappointed that the description did not consider the possibility of a California Gull here. There have been many occasions when reflected light (from ice, water, or an overcast sky) has made the upper parts of California Gulls appear very dark, in fact, about as dark as a Lesser Black-backed Gull. Finally, I was a little troubled that the description stated that the candidate gull was about the size of a nearby Herring Gull. Lesser Black-backed Gulls should appear to be distinctly smaller than Herring Gulls and are about the size and shape of a large California Gull. |
08-17-2007. Dave Trochlell -- Reject, specific identification not established As Cliff noted, the description is not sufficient to eliminate other species. |
| 11-4-06. Carlisle -- Accept My only concern is size (about the same as Herring) as the average Lesser Black-backed is smaller than the average Herring. Even though doubt is expressed about leg color, a Slaty-backed should have obviously pink legs. |
9-2-07. Carlisle -- Accept Though a better look at eye & leg color would be desirable, I think that the report did a thorough job in considering other dark-backed gull species. Also, while size caused me to wonder a bit, a large LBB Gull could be comparable in size to a small Herring Gull. |
| 11/14/2006. Charles Swift -- Accept An admittedly distant view but I'm willing to accept on the details provided. Also this species has become annual in the inland northwest in the past few years. |
10/2/07. Charles Swift -- Reject, specific identification not established Cliff and Dave make good points in being cautious and they convince me that though this may well have been a Lesser Black-backed, the report is not sufficiently robust to support that identification. |
| 01-02-2007. dumroese -- Accept I think the detail is sufficient to show this as a LBBG. The dark color, leg color similar to RBGU, size, point more to LBBG than any other candidates. |
15 Aug 2007. Darren Clark -- Reject, specific identification not established Not being able to tell the color of the legs and eye is problematic. Lesser Black-backed is the gull that most closely fits the description, but I'm not comfortable with the lack of some critical details. |