Voting Comments
Record #: 2-B-05
Cackling Goose
1st Round:: 4-3
2nd Round: 1-6
NOT ACCEPT
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1st Round |
2nd Round |
| 06-23-2007. Sturts -- Reject, specific identification not established I could go either way on this report. The two things in favor of an accept vote is the short bill (but there is no description of the head shape). The other is the size (but size is not an indicator). The report does say significantly smaller (size of a Mallard) which would indicate to me that is is likely a Cackling Goose. The neck-ring according to Sibley is typical of the Aleutian (Cackling) but could occur in any of he other populations. Could it be part of a feral population? On this first round, I'm going to reject this report and see how others on the Committee feel about this record. |
08-03-2007. Sturts -- Reject, specific identification not established I'm staying with my first vote for the same reasons. |
| 6/25/2007. Cliff Weisse -- Reject, specific identification not established Although this was probably a Cackling Goose the description does not rule out the possibility of a runt Canada Goose. |
8/4/07. Cliff Weisse -- Reject, specific identification not established I still feel the description doesn't include the field marks necessary to confirm the identification of Cackling Goose, especially bill and head shape. |
| 6-29-07. Carlisle -- Accept Good description |
8-16-07. Carlisle -- Accept While uncomfortable with the lack of a description of bill/head shape, I think the small size (Mallard) rules out even a runt parvipes Canada. |
| 06-30-2007. Dave Trochlell -- Accept The description offered here is a bit weak, but I believe that James adequately describes a Cackling Goose. |
08-08-2007. Dave Trochlell -- Reject, specific identification not established I'm voting to reject this record because James Cleaver's report fails to describe this bird's head and bill characteristics, which would be critical for differentiating this species from Canada Goose. Though his bird was about the size of a Mallard, (and was likely a minima Cackling Goose), we can't be sure that it wasn't an abnormally small Canada Goose. |
| 2 July 2007. Hardy -- Reject, natural occurrence questionable The very small size, noted as "about the size of a Mallard", is convincing for minima. However, the behavior of this bird, i.e., eating bread thrown by people, strongly suggests that this is an escapee from captivity rather than a wild bird. |
6 August 2007. Hardy -- Reject, natural occurrence questionable I am willing to accept that Cacklers act tamely, but the eating bread part is just too much for me to swallow. I think there is a good probability that this is an escapee. |
| 07-02-2007. chuck trost -- Accept Description is fairly good and he is a careful observer. Too bad the photo is missing, but I accept. |
08-07-2007. chuck trost -- Reject, natural occurrence questionable I think I'll change my vote on this because of the locality - feeding on grass and tame, and the white ring on the upper breast. If it is an Aleutian cackler, it represents a rare and threatened population. If it is a strange minima race, its white chest band is a variant and makes me wonder about its origin. I would still like to see the picture. |
| 7/7/06. Charles Swift -- Reject, specific identification not established I have some reservations about this record although it could well be a Cackling Goose based on body and bill size alone. There is no description of underparts which would be helpful. The white neck ring is a bit unusual but Krueger's account (http://www.idahobirds.net/identification/white-cheeked/subspecies.html#minima) indicates it can be found in some % of minima cacklers. |
8/23/07. Charles Swift -- Reject, specific identification not established A tough call but I'm voting to reject again. In additions to various points already made the date seems late based on other accepted records so far. |